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Sep 3, 2010

excellent but authorless....THE KHAZARS - FACT OR FICTION?

 


Sept. 3, 2010
 

Interesting.


In the State Historical Museum on Red Square in Moscow, I was astonished to find that there are several cases of artifacts from the Khazar Empire. It is very thought provoking. (The Museum is simply overwhelming, simply magnificent, with artifacts from scores of cultures that lived across central Eurasia.) (BTW, the anachronistic claims that Khazar artifacts have stars of David on them is wrong from what I saw: Moreover, Jews adopted the Star of David, which had been a Christian symbol, centuries later. In Karlovy Vady (German: Karlsbad) in Czechia, there were some ancient monuments that had prominent six pointed stars: The tour guide noted (in response to questions) that this was ancient Christian symbol before Jews started to use it, and then gestured towards a jewelry store with a very small, really in obtrusive star of David emblem (always in the right hand-most, lower corner of the window) to signal that it is Jewish owned. Jews do this to draw in Jewish business. I was with a Russian tour group and the star in the store window moved no one to go there.)

I tend to think that the Khazar elite converted and when the empire fell the unconverted masses of the tribes that composed the empire melted away into other groups. Steppe empires created ephemeral alliances of tribes and when the empires fell the tribes were reshuffled into new ethno-political configurations. The non-elite, decapitated and betrayed Khazars were absorbed by other tribes.

In every real sense of it, after the Khazar elite was converted, the non-elite disappeared.

BTW, the old idea that the Bulgarians were Turks that became Slavs as they were Christianized is no longer accepted. They were always Slavs. So how many of the old Turkic empires in Eurasia were also Slav. Who can say?

J.

P.S.--There is a vast literature across centuries in a dozen languages about the Khazars. Much of it is written by Jews, but that doesn't mean much because Jews are usually found on every side of every question.

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On Sep 3, 2010, at 12:40 PM, Bill Guru wrote:


THE KHAZARS – FACT OR FICTION?

 

Jewish opponents of the Khazar theory of the origins of Eastern European Jewry have developed a rather standard defense to the Khazar Jew thesis. Since they cannot deny the Khazar influence outright, they seek to minimize it. Thus, they invariably argue that only the Khazar aristocracy adopted Judaism, not the Khazar masses. Since only a handful of Khazars converted, the Khazar contribution to the Jewish genetic gene pool is only minimal. Jews are therefore not the descendants of the Khazar Empire. It should be obvious on the face of it that this argument is ethnically motivated and in defiance of many facts. Jews know full well that any provable descent from the Khazars would undermine their occupation of Arab Palestine. Thus, downplaying the real Khazar contribution to their gene pool is an essential political stratagem.

 

The Arab and other chroniclers who visited the Khazar Empire were generally consistent in their descriptions of a mass Khazar conversion to Judaism. These Arab eyewitnesses over many decades time had no reason to lie about the extent of the Khazar conversion to Judaism, unlike self-interested present day Jews who have every such motivation. The strongest arguments of all are demographics and physical appearance. Many thousands of Jews reside in what used to be the heartland of the old Khazar Empire in south Russia and western Ukraine/Eastern Poland where the Khazars migrated after the break up of their empire. These Jews typically display Mongoloid faces with reddish hair grafted onto white skin. These were precisely the physical characteristics of the Khazars recorded by the ancient chroniclers. It would defy both logic and common sense to think that these correlations are coincidental. There is much else to be said on the subject. Many of the medieval Turkic tribes of the Eurasian plains have survived to the present day. The Bulgars, in both modern day Bulgaria and their Volga homeland have survived. The Magyars, who entered Europe in the 9th century A.D., became the Hungarian nation. Many other examples could be cited. How is it that all these ancient peoples can be identified in their modern incarnations but the extremely powerful tribe which ruled them all, the Khazars, supposedly disappeared into the mists of time? By far the more believable explanation, given the vast profusion of Mongoloid Jews in Russia, is Khazar derivation.

 

Opponents of the Khazar theory make much of highly selective genetic testing that they claim decisively refutes the Khazar Jew theory. But there are many problems with this approach. In the first place, no one has applied genetic testing to groups whose identity is known. Suppose that a genetic test were to show that the Hungarians were not genetically related to the Magyars although in fact they are? Or suppose that a genetic test showed that the Bulgarians had no connection to the Volga Bulgars, the tribe from whom they split? Would the genetic tests then be considered reliable? Genetic tests are only as reliable as their data and their comparison points. Current genetic testing has not yet tested actual Khazar bones. The genetic composition of the actual Khazar population remains unknown. It is well-established that Middle Eastern Jews migrated to Khazaria and interbred with the Khazars. The Khazars also interbred with their subject Slavic tribes. Thus, the genetic picture is extremely complicated. Despite these difficulties there are suggestions of Khazar genes in the Eastern European Jewish population. Haplotypes, or genetic markers on chromosomes, give a clue. One such is the "Q" haplotype typically found in the Eurasian plains. Another is the "K" haplotype which is not typical of the Middle East. Still another is the R1A1 haplotype, again typical of Central Asia. It is worth remembering that no one knows for certain how many genetic types or subtypes existed within the Khazar population or what percentage of Khazars fell into which group. Finally, it is entirely possible that entire Slavic tribes converted to Judaism in obeisance to the Khazars. The extreme complexity of all these factors makes any conclusion based on genetics alone tentative in the extreme.

 

Archaeological and coin discoveries also offer convincing evidence of the Khazar conversion to Judaism. Excavations of Khazar burial mounds from the ninth century A.D. show a marked change from earlier burial mounds. The shamanistic amulets of earlier burials are replaced with Torah scrolls and other religious artifacts. This would seem to indicate a definite change in religion in the Khazar population. Jewish coins minted by the Khazars have been found as far north as Sweden with the inscription: "Moses is the messenger of God". This essay earlier alluded to the political motivations of present day Jews in denying the Khazar connection. One factor in particular bears on this lack of credibility. The Jews, as Holocaust revisionists have demonstrated, are provably lying about six million of their kind being killed in fictional "gas chambers". How believable then, are these same Jews when they attempt to minimize the real influence of the Khazars on their genes? That is a question which the informed reader shall have to decide for himself.

 




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The Shadowy Origins of “Night” II

 




FROM THE ELIE WIESEL BLOG
The Shadowy Origins of "Night" II
By Carolyn Yeager

Part Two: Can the books Night and And the World Remained Silent have been written by the same author? What one critic reveals.

We know a lot about the man who calls himself Elie Wiesel from his own mouth and pen, but we know of the Lazar Wiesel born on Sept. 4, 1913 only through Miklos GrĂ¼ner's testimony, and of the author of Un di Velt Hot Gesvign (And the World Remained Silent) through the work itself. So let's consider what we know of these two men before we look at their books.
The city of Sighet can be seen in the purple-colored Maramures district on this map of Greater Romania in the 1930′s.

Who is Elie Wiesel?

Elie Wiesel says in Night that he grew up in a "little town in Translyvania," and his father was a well-known, respected figure within the Hasidic Orthodox Jewish community. However, Sanford Sternlicht tells us that Maramurossziget, Romania had a population of ninety thousand people, of whom over one-third were Jewish.15 Some say it was almost half. Sternlicht also writes that in April 1944, fifteen thousand Jews from Sighet and eighteen thousand more from outlying villages were deported. How many with the name of Wiesel might have been among that large group? I counted 19 Eliezer or Lazar Wiesel's or Visel's from the Maramures District of Romania listed as Shoah Victims on the Yad Vashem Central Database. Just think—according to their friends and relatives, nineteen men of the same name from this district perished in the camps in that one year. It causes one to wonder how many Lazar and Eliezer Wiesels didn't perish, but became survivors and went on to write books, perhaps.

Lazare, Lazar, and Eliezer are the same name. Another variation is Leizer (prounounced Loizer). A pet version of the name is Liczu; a shortened version is Elie.16 In spite of having a popular, oft-used name, Elie Wiesel describes a unique picture of his life. The common language of the Orthodox Hasidic Jews of Sighet was Yiddish. Wiesel has said he thinks in Yiddish, but speaks and writes in French.17

In his memoir, he admits that he was a difficult, complaining child—a weak child who didn't eat enough and liked to stay in bed.18 He comes across as definitely spoiled, the only son among three daughters.

According to Gary Henry, as well as other of Wiesel's biographers and Wiesel himself, young Elie Wiesel was exceptionally fervent about the Hasidic way of life. He studied Torah, Talmud and Kabbalah; prayed and fasted and longed to penetrate the secrets of Jewish mysticism to such an extreme that he had "little time for the usual joys of childhood and became chronically weak and sickly from his habitual fasting."19 His parents had to insist he combine secular studies with his Talmudic and Kabbalistic devotion. Wiesel says in Night that he ran to the synagogue every evening to pray and "weep" and met with a local Kabbalist teacher daily (Moishe the Beadle), in spite of his father's disapproved on the grounds Elie was too young for such knowledge.
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At Last -- The Full Story Of How Facebook Was Founded

 

At Last -- The Full Story Of How Facebook Was Founded


March 5, 2010

Excerpt:

Zuck: I also hate the fact that I'm doing it for other people haha. Like I hate working under other people. I feel like the right thing to do is finish the facebook and wait until the last day before I'm supposed to have their thing ready and then be like "look yours isn't as good as this so if you want to join mine you can…otherwise I can help you with yours later." Or do you think that's too dick?

D'Angelo: I think you should just ditch them

Zuck: The thing is they have a programmer who could finish their thing and they have money to pour into advertising and stuff. Oh wait I have money too. My friend who wants to sponsor this is head of the investment society. Apparently insider trading isn't illegal in Brazil so he's rich lol.

D'Angelo: lol


Mark sought advice on this decision from his confidants. One friend told him, in so many words, you know me. I don't ever think anyone should do anything bad to anybody.

Mark and this friend also had the following IM exchange about how Mark planned to resolve the competing projects:

Friend: So have you decided what you're going to do about the websites?

Zuck: Yeah, I'm going to fuck them

Zuck: Probably in the year

Zuck: *ear

And so, it appears, he did.  (In a manner of speaking).

On January 14, 2004, Mark Zuckerberg met with Cameron, Tyler, and Divya for the last time. During the meeting at Kirkland House, Mark expressed doubts about the viability of HarvardConnection.com. He said he was very busy with personal projects and school work and that he wouldn't be able to work on the site for a while. He blamed others for the site's delays. 

He did not say that he was working on his own project and that he was not planning to complete the HarvardConnection site.

After the meeting, Mark had another IM exchange with the friend above. He told her, in effect, that he had wimped out. He hadn't been able to break the news to Cameron and Tyler, in part, he said, because he was "intimidated" by them. He called them "poor bastards."

So then what happened?

Three days earlier, on January 11, 2004, Mark had registered the domain THEFACEBOOK.COM.

On February 4, he opened the site to Harvard students.

On February 10, Cameron Winklevoss sent Mark a letter accusing him of breaching their agreement and stealing their idea.

In late May, after going through two more developers, Cameron, Tyler and Divya launched HarvardConnection as ConnectU, a social network for 15 schools.

On June 10, 2004, a commencement speaker mentioned the amazing popularity of Mark's site, thefacebook.com.

In the summer of 2004, Mark moved to Palo Alto to work on Facebook full time and soon received a $500,000 investment from Peter Thiel.

In September 2004, HarvardConnection, now called ConnectU, sued Mark Zuckerberg and the now-incorporated "Facebook" for allegedly breaching their agreement and stealing their idea.

In February 2008, Facebook and ConnectU agreed to settle the lawsuit.

In June 2008, ConnectU appealed the settlement in California's ninth district, accusing Facebook of trading its stock without disclosing material information. This appeal is on-going.



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Re: --RE: Palestinian people - Wrong! Wrong! Wrong!

 



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From: James 
Date: Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 2:56 PM


Nonsense. Palestinian is the anglicized pronunciation of Felesteen: Philistine. It is more like 3000 years old.

James



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The first widespread use of "Palestinian" as an endonym to refer to the nationalistconcept of a Palestinian people by the local Arabic-speaking population of Palestine began prior to the outbreak of World War I,[17] and the first demand for national independence was issued by the Syrian-Palestinian Congress on 21 September 1921.[18] After the creation of Israel, the exodus of 1948, and more so after theexodus of 1967, the term came to signify not only a place of origin, but the sense of a shared past and future in the form of a Palestinian nation-state.[17] The Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) represents the Palestinian people before the international community.[19] The Palestinian National Authority, officially established as a result of the Oslo Accords, is an interim administrative body nominally responsible for governance in Palestinian population centres in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.



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